Hi Dr. Vallicella,
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts, if it interests you to write about it on your blog, on Strawson's intriguing 2021 paper "Oh you materialist!", in which he argues for a materialistic monism and a deflation of the hard problem.Here is a link to the paper: https://philarchive.org/archive/STROYMBest,Chandler
The problem can be set forth in a nice neat way as an aporetic triad:
1) Consciousness is real; it is not an illusion.
2) Consciousness is wholly natural, a material process in the brain.
3) It is impossible that conscious states, whether object-directed or merely qualitative, be material in nature.
It is easy to see that the members of this triad are collectively inconsistent: they cannot all be true. Any two of the propositions, taken together, entails the negation of the remaining proposition.
And yet each limb of the triad has brilliant defenders and brilliant opponents. So not only is consciousness itself a mighty goad to inquiry; the wild diversity of opinions about it is as well. (The second goad is an instance of what I call the Moorean motive for doing philosophy: G. E. Moore did not get his problems from the world, but from the strange and mutually contradictory things philosophers said about the world, e.g., that time is unreal (McTaggart) or that nothing is really related (Bradley).)
The above problem is soluble if a compelling case can be made for the rejection of one of the limbs. But which one? Eliminativists and illusionists reject (1); dualists of all types, and not just substance dualists, reject (2); materialists reject (3). Three prominent rejectors, respectively: Dennett, Swinburne. Strawson.
I agree with Strawson that eliminativism has zero credibility. (1) is self-evident and the attempts to deny it are easily convicted of incoherence. So no solution is to be had by rejecting (1).
As for (2), it is overwhelmingly credible to most at the present time. We live in a secular age. 'Surely' -- the secularist will assure us -- there is nothing concrete that is supernatural. God and the soul are just comforting fictions from a bygone era. The natural exhausts the real. Materialism about the mind is just logical fallout from naturalism. If all that (concretely) exists is space-time and its contents, then the same goes for minds and their states.
Strawson, accepting both (1) and (2) must reject (3). But the arguments against (3), one of which I will sketch below, are formidable. The upshot of these arguments is that it is unintelligible how either qualia or intentional states of consciousness could be wholly material in nature. Suppose I told you that there is a man who is both fully human and fully divine. You would say that that makes no sense, is unintelligible, and is impossible for that very reason. Well, it is no less unintelligible that a felt sensation such as my present blogger's euphoria be identical to a state of my brain.
What could a materialist such as Strawson say in response? He has to make a mysterian move.
He could say that our understanding of matter at present does not allow us to understand how conscious experience could be wholly material in nature, but that it is nevertheless wholly material in nature! Some matter is sentient and some matter thinks. My euphoria is literally inside my skull and so are my thoughts about Boston. These 'mental' items are made of the same stuff as what we are wont to call 'material' items.
(Compare the orthodox Chalcedonian Incarnationalist who says that the man Jesus of Nazareth is identical to the Second Person of the Trinity despite the violation of the Indiscernibility of Identicals. Put the Incarnationalist under dialectical pressure and he might say, "Look it is true! We know it by divine revelation. And what is true is true whether or not we can understand how it is possible that it be true. It must remain a mystery to us here below.)
Or a materialist mysterian can say that our understanding of matter will never allow us to understand how conscious experience could be wholly material in nature. Either way, conscious experience, whether intentional or non-intentional, is wholly material in nature, and falls entirely within the subject-matter of physics, whether a future physics achievable by us, or a physics which, though not achievable by us, is perhaps achievable by organisms of a different constitution who study us.
If I understand Galen Strawson's mysterianism, it is of the first type. Conscious experience is fully real but wholly material in nature despite the fact that on current physics we cannot account for its reality: we cannot understand how it is possible for qualia and thoughts to be wholly material. Here is a characteristic passage from Strawson:
Serious materialists have to be outright realists about the experiential. So they are obliged to hold that experiential phenomena just are physical phenomena, although current physics cannot account for them. As an acting materialist, I accept this, and assume that experiential phenomena are "based in" or "realized in" the brain (to stick to the human case). But this assumption does not solve any problems for materialists. Instead it obliges them to admit ignorance of the nature of the physical, to admit that they don't have a fully adequate idea of what the physical is, and hence of what the brain is. ("The Experiential and the Non-Experiential" in Warner and Szubka, eds. The Mind-Body Problem, Blackwell, 1994, p. 77)
Strawson and I agree on two important points. One is that what he calls experiential phenomena are as real as anything and cannot be eliminated or reduced to anything non-experiential. Dennett denied! The other is that there is no accounting for experiential items in terms of current physics.
I disagree on whether his mysterian solution is a genuine solution to the problem. What he is saying is that, given the obvious reality of conscious states, and given the truth of naturalism, experiential phenomena must be material in nature, and that this is so whether or not we are able to understand how it could be so. At present we cannot understand how it could be so. It is at present a mystery. But the mystery will dissipate when we have a better understanding of matter.
This strikes me as (metaphysical) bluster.
An experiential item such as a twinge of pain or a rush of elation is essentially subjective; it is something whose appearing just is its reality. For qualia, esse = percipi. If I am told that someday items like this will be exhaustively understood from a third-person point of view as objects of physics, I have no idea what this means. The very notion strikes me as absurd. We are being told in effect that what is essentially subjective will one day be exhaustively understood as both essentially subjective and wholly objective. And that makes no sense. If you tell me that understanding in physics need not be objectifying understanding, I don't know what that means either.
As Strawson clearly appreciates, one cannot reduce a twinge of pain to a pattern of neuron firings, for such a reduction eliminates the what-it-is-like-ness of the experience. And so he inflates the concept of the physical to cover both the physical and the mental. But by doing this he drains the physical of definite meaning. His materialism is a vacuous materialism. We no longer have any idea of what 'physical' means if it no longer contrasts with 'mental.'
If we are told that sensations and thoughts are wholly material, we have a definite proposition only if 'material' contrasts with 'mental.' But if we are told that sensations and thoughts are material, but that matter in reality has mental properties and powers, then I say we are being fed nonsense. We are being served grammatically correct sentences that do not express a coherent thought.
Besides, if some matter in reality senses and thinks, surely some matter doesn't; hence we are back to dualism.
Why is Strawson's mysterianism any better than Dennett's eliminativism? Both are materialists. And both are keenly aware of the problem that qualia pose. This is known in the trade as the 'hard problem.' (What? The other problems in the vicinity are easy?) The eliminativist simply denies the troublesome data. Qualia don't exist! They are illusory! The mysterian materialist cannot bring himself to say something so manifestly silly. But, unwilling to question his materialism, he says something that is not much better. He tells us that qualia are real, and wholly material, but we don't understand how because we don't know enough about matter. But this 'theological' solution is also worthless because no definite proposition is being advanced.
Strawson frankly confesses, "I am by faith a materialist." (p. 69) Given this faith, experiential items, precisely as experiential, must be wholly material in nature. This faith engenders the hope that future science will unlock the secret. Strawson must pin his hopes on future science because of his clear recognition that experiential items are incomprehensible in terms of current physics.
But what do the theological virtues of faith and hope have to do with sober inquiry? It doesn't strike me as particularly intellectually honest to insist that materialism just has to be true and to uphold it by widening the concept of the physical to embrace what is mental. It would be more honest just to admit that the problem of consciousness is insoluble.
And that is my 'solution.' The problem is real, but insoluble.
Strawson's latest banging on his mysterian materialist drum is to be found in The Consciousness Deniers in The New York Review of Books.
One approach to an apparently insoluble problem is to find a way to see it as not a problem. This worked for Planck when he introduced the constant named for him, to solve the "Problem" of cavity radiation. He thought it was a mathematical cheat, and it turned out instead to be a real thing. Something similar is lurking to be discovered about consciousness, I think, and the signpost pointing to it is to consider that consciousness is one of the fundamentals of Creation, and that it does not have to arise from particular combinations of matter. This, of course, broadens the concept of "everything" beyond that which is merely physical. Signed, Joe Odegaard, Architect and Barbarian.
Posted by: Joe Odegaard | Wednesday, January 19, 2022 at 02:28 PM
Hi Bill,
I'd like to more clearly understand the opposition, if it be such, between 'faith and hope' and 'sober inquiry' in general, not just this context. Is it the opposition between Athens and Jerusalem?
Posted by: Dave Bagwill | Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 12:12 PM
Dave,
That's a topic for another occasion. But yes it is the opposition between Athens (philosophy) and Jerusalem (religion). What am objecting to in this context is the secularization of religious notions by materialists such as Strawson and rhe Churchlands. In the end there is something utterly absurd about HOPING that future science will conclusively show that we are nothing but complex physical systems.
Posted by: BV | Thursday, January 20, 2022 at 01:17 PM
“It doesn't strike me as particularly intellectually honest to insist that materialism just has to be true and to uphold it by widening the concept of the physical to embrace what is mental.”
I agree. This approach strikes me as a dogmatic kind of materialistic fideism.
In addition to broadening the concept of the physical, Strawson might also be exaggerating the human epistemic capacity to know matter and its supposed mental properties. This reminds me of what Hare claimed some moral thinkers do: “puff up” our moral abilities and/or diminish the moral demands on us, thereby artificially closing the gap between the two. The result: one can claim to meet a contrived standard of moral uprightness. (The Moral Gap, Part II – Human Limits)
https://oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/acprof:oso/9780198269571.001.0001/acprof-9780198269571
Posted by: Elliott | Friday, January 21, 2022 at 11:51 AM
Hi Elliot,
At first I thought you were referring to R. M. Hare. And then I hit the link. I just now ordered John Hare's book. I had stumbled upon the problem he discusses on my own some years ago and have written a post or two about it. It appears that he has gone deep into the matter. I couldn't find a review of it on NDPR, however.
I think you mentioned Hare's book already a while back.
Posted by: BV | Friday, January 21, 2022 at 01:54 PM
Bill, I also recall mentioning the book. You have a good memory.
You asked: "But what do the theological virtues of faith and hope have to do with sober inquiry?"
It seems to me that both faith and sober inquiry can be open to obtaining the truth. One important difference between the two is that the approach of faith must be wary of prioritizing faith over truth, while genuine inquiry, insofar as it follows the arguments where they lead, does not prioritize faith over truth. (Although the approach of reasoning has its own pitfalls for which to be cautious.)
Posted by: Elliott | Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 03:04 PM