This just in:
I know you like puzzles in aporetic form, so here you are.
1. My perception involves (though is not necessarily limited to) the immediate awareness of mental phenomena.
2. When I look at the visible surface of this desk, all I am immediately aware of is the visible surface of this desk.
3. The visible surface of this desk is not a mental phenomenon.
All three cannot be true. If (1) is true then my perceiving the desk involves the awareness of mental phenomena. Note that this does not assert that the visible surface of this desk is a mental phenomenon, only that, if it is not, then I must be immediately aware of some mental phenomena in addition to my awareness of the desk.
But (2) says that the visible surface of this desk is all I am immediately aware of. Hence (3) cannot be true.
Likewise, if (2) and (3) are true, (1) is false, and if (1) and (3) are true, (2) is false.
Nicely presented. I agree that the three propositions are collectively inconsistent: they cannot all be true. But there is an interesting problem here only if the propositions are, in addition, individually plausible. The more plausible, the tougher the problem.
(3) is plausible to a high degree. (Plausibility, unlike truth, comes in degrees.) A desk is a physical thing. The surface of a desk is a physical part of a physical thing. A mind, its states, and its contents are none of them physical. An occurrent episode of visual perceiving is a mental phenomenon. So, yes, (3) is highly plausible and I would rank it as the most plausible of the three propositions.
(2) is the least plausible of the three. It is true that when I look at my desk I do not see my visual perceiving of the desk or of some part thereof. But it does not follow that I am not aware of my perceiving. Right now, as I stare at my desk, I am not only visually aware of (part of) the desk; I am also aware of being visually aware of it. This is what Franz Brentano calls innere Wahrnehmung, inner perception, which he distinguishes from innere Beobachtung, inner observation. This ongoing inner perception, or rather perceiving, is a simultaneous secondary awareness of the primary 'outward' visual awareness of the (surface of) the desk.
This inner awareness of being outwardly aware of something is not the same as full-blown reflection which one could, but need not, express by saying 'I am now seeing the surface of a desk.' It also must be distinguished from the type of awareness in which I am outwardly aware of something without being aware of being aware of it at all. Suppose you have been driving for some time, stopping at the red, going at the green, negotiating turns, etc. when you suddenly realize that you have no memory of doing any of those things. And yet your present physical integrity shows that you must have been aware of all those traffic changes. You were outwardly aware via the five outer senses without being explicitly aware of being aware or implicitly aware via Brentano's inner perception.
And so I solve the above problem by rejecting (2). (2) is the least plausible of the three and a very strong case can be made for its being false.
(1) leaves something to be desired as well. Later on this.
So we don't have an aporia in the strict sense, an intellectual impasse, or insoluble problem. And even if we did, it is not clear what this has to do with Kant.
I agree that (2) is the weakest leg, and I see that you are not happy about (1). What about (3)? A Berkeleyan idealist would deny this leg. I have to admit that I find this approach tempting, not least because it gets rid of the of Aristotelian 'materia prima', which is a metaphysical Shrödinger's cat.
Posted by: Jonathan Barber | Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 12:59 AM
What has (1) to do with Kant? There are many passages, but see e.g. (A50/B74) where he says that objects are ‘given’ (gegeben) to us via representations (Vorstellungen) or impressions (Eindrücke), and that these representations are in (literally ‘of’) the mind (des Gemüts). See also B41 where he says that a representation is ‘immediate’ (unmittelbare), and that immediate representation is ‘intuition’ (Anschauung).
“(2) is the least plausible of the three.” Is it? Proposition (2) is Reid’s master thesis, which I borrowed, and I will search out a citation some time this week.
You support this by saying that, in being aware of the surface, I am also aware of my being aware. Correct? Now I agree: I am aware that I am aware of the surface of the desk . But the noun phrase ‘that I am aware of the surface of the desk” denotes a proposition. In what sense is that proposition a thing? And even if the noun phrase denotes something, does it denote the kind of thing that Kant means by a ‘representation’ or ‘intuition’, or ‘sensation’?
The onus on Kantians is to explain precisely what they mean by sensations or representations or whatever, then provide evidence that such things exist. Kant opens the Transcendental Aesthetic as follows:
Yet nowhere in the introduction does he define the term ‘intuition’, or explain what it means, or give us an example of what such a thing might be. Perhaps you or one of your readers can help.Posted by: oz the ostrich | Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 04:58 AM
Jonathan,
Materia prima is a fascinating topic. I take it that the cat comparison is a way of saying that materia prima both does and does not exist. See here: https://maverickphilosopher.typepad.com/maverick_philosopher/2020/11/what-is-a-limit-concept.html
There are problems with (3) that I didn't mention. When I stare at my desk, what is before my mind? Not in my mind, but before my mind? Husserl: a noema. But that is not a physical thing. If you've studied Husserl, you know what I mean. If you haven't, it would take a separate post to explain it.
Posted by: BV | Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 10:04 AM
Again, it would be helpful for those who question (2) to give a definition, including by example, of exactly what sort of thing would be an appropriate candidate for any thing that I am aware of, through the sense of sight, that is not the visible surface of this desk.
I looked up ‘noema’ but the consensus among Husserlians is that there is no consensus as to what a such a thing is.
At least those who claim the existence of ghosts or spirits can make it reasonably clear what they mean by ‘ghost’ or ‘spirit’. It is the question of existence that they find difficult to prove.
With philosophy, by contrast, we have a queue of people claiming the existence of things whose nature they cannot agree upon, or even make intelligible.
Posted by: oz the ostrich | Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 10:26 AM
>>“(2) is the least plausible of the three.” Is it? Proposition (2) is Reid’s master thesis, which I borrowed, and I will search out a citation some time this week.<<
You may have have in mind p. 37 of Essays on the Intellectual Powers of Man where Reid writes, "I take it for granted, that in most operations of the mind, there must be an object distinct from the operation itself. I cannot see, without seeing something. To see, without having any object of sight, is absurd."
What Reid means by 'object' here is a thing that exists independently of the operations of a mind. Thus your desk exists whether or not you are perceiving it, recalling it, etc.
But there are two very different senses of 'object.' Object as thing that exists in itself and object as merely intentional object. I heartily agree, as everyone must, that one cannot see without seeing something, and that it would be absurd to hold that one can see without having an object of sight. But it doesn't follow that the item seen exists in itself apart from the operations of a mind. The item could be a merely intentional object.
Reid is conflating the two very different senses of 'object.' He is dogmatizing.
Posted by: BV | Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 10:41 AM
>>Again, it would be helpful for those who question (2) to give a definition, including by example, of exactly what sort of thing would be an appropriate candidate for any thing that I am aware of, through the sense of sight, that is not the visible surface of this desk.<<
Here is (2): >>When I look at the visible surface of this desk, all I am immediately aware of is the visible surface of this desk.<<
(2) is false because I am also immediately aware of seeing the desk. I am not just seeing the desk, I am aware of seeing the desk. That is what goes on in typical cases.
Oz fails to understand this because he falsely assumes that this simultaneous secondary aware of the primary visual awareness must itself be a visual awareness. Not so.
Posted by: BV | Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 11:18 AM
>(2) is false because I am also immediately aware of seeing the desk. I am not just seeing the desk, I am aware of seeing the desk.
I address that question in detail in the book. But fine, let's go with that. I am aware of the visible surface of the desk, and I am aware of the desk itself. But neither of these is a mental item, correct?
So again let's have a candidate for any thing that I am aware of, through the sense of sight, that is not the visible surface of this desk, or the desk etc etc.
Posted by: oz the ostrich | Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 11:56 AM
>> I am aware of the visible surface of the desk, and I am aware of the desk itself. But neither of these is a mental item, correct?<<
How are you aware of the desk itself? Do you see the desk itself with all its parts and properties? No. I get the impression that you are just assuming the truth of metaphysical realism as Reid does. See my comment at 10:41.
Posted by: BV | Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 12:51 PM
Yes, I see the desk "with all its parts and properties". Obviously so.
Posted by: oz the ostrich | Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 02:44 PM
So when you look at your desk, you see the cellulose molecules of the desk's underside?
Posted by: BV | Monday, June 13, 2022 at 11:40 AM